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As our first ever returning guest, Peter Smith is back to talk about his new venture,
Flexin. Learn more about Flexin at https://app.flexin.io/
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into that.
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they always
tell me,
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is, this is Peter Smith, by the way.
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done the introduction
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I
feel like you’re just a regular now.
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but,
but
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so
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it’s
like,
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you know, it’s
he’s
so
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All these different things doing.
then there’s
then
there’s thing,
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this flex
flex and and that’s exactly
what’s that,
and
exactly why we
have you here. Cause we are gonna focus specifically today on
On this project to describe
I don’t
things but
to
all these
things, but
Peter, welcome
back to
welcome back to the
show.
No that
know, that people are listening and watch it.
And it’s
always
satisfying to
have it All be heard
we did this for a
reason,
a reason,
not just Troy and I bet in the morning,
in the morning, this is like an actual
podcast
that,
you
people
seven to,
eight people
On because we’re not just
what’s
even about flex and we’re we’re
here
to
about flux and
really get
to
it’s
launch Right
It’s launch.
Right?
Well, yeah,
yeah, I’ll
start with
ending
of
ending the
knew that
I knew that flection was launching and I didn’t
have a date
on
We’ve
we’ve launched the product. That’s usable
now@appdotflexand.io anyone who
wants to upload a handstand, going
clicking on the
on upload
going
to
return
them
a review
of
a
handstand.
that
that
explains where fluxion is
today.
You can use it like that. And for.
that
Portion of the world for whom there’s not handstand coaches in their city or their
at this
this
is for
them. This is where
we’re
starting
with
I
have a residence here
in Syracuse.
there
there
is no
particular moment spot to go
handstand
YouTube
classes
There’s
There’s enough challenge in doing it that you really
want
a coach. If you don’t have a coach, you can get there. You can
use
YouTube
so
but
That’s
sort of how
and
evolved was out of view.
Sure.
that’s like you were saying before,
it’s
before, it’s that’s
the,
how to do it, there’s
how to
you
but
terms of did I actually that?
of did I
And
that’s that’s what
do
that?
And
coaches
talk about the need for
a
need for a is
so
prevalent
Yeah.
Yeah. I’d love
it easier
Anything
progression of what
happened
with
video in the
time
I was
the
the YouTube platform made it
anybody to
anybody to
Sure.
Sure.
So.
learn
A
period
of
period of time where I was on there, learning more about
computers
learning more
A breakdancer in
dancer in
Australia was learning more about what’s the rest
of the world
doing there.
if you There feeling where were break-dancing, it really was dependent on where you
lived, what
skills
you
Okay. So
the
what
the Brazilian
breakdancers would do
one thing this way. And power on
three or four
Characteristics, because that’s what
people learned
And together.
what people
so that
break dancer in Australia is a co-founder of the
company
and he was
And he was inspired by a French breakdancer. his
name is B boy
Jr.
B
boy
B
Jr. Can’t really walk
fact,
Can’t
You know,
from birth,
he had
a
and he learned to
dance And
dance and he learned to dance with
extreme his
And
was cool
when
It was very
very
what
you
can do
you
ever watch b-boy
Jr. He’s world
renowned
as one of the better breakdancers that has ever done
power
moves,
we
that acquire
really strong
So
So she’s 18 or so my coach Simon
atta,
he
and still learning
watch
all of a sudden he’s trying harder things
than he’s ever
tried
spent years
technology
on how
it. was 2008,
2021 people still.
People
and so
watch YouTube they’re
still learning
churn.
evolved, I
all the technology around and making
it fo
around upload. And really everybody does
upload
to
their
Right. and
this
And
this progresses
that
That’s
conversation.
YouTube
of
both sides participate
now, the
athlete
you’ve so it a two way
a two way conversation,
two
cool
It’s a two
way
conversation,
That’s great.
That’s great.
That’s
that’s
what
we see.
we
been for this I was a little here of technology there smell
to where
that you see in
the food that you see in
sorry,
the video. I’m
But
getting off
or
potential I love seeing this evolution. and we talked about this previously. I don’t remember if it was on the or off,
the off,
off, but potential
for this
technology
and the different
Well
beyond
handstands.
awesome place to start
in
awesome
of
what’s
place to
Because of what’s required of that
of that particular thing.
I just think it’s
that I’ve
I
had
vision
a moment in the beginning of this
August of this
in
and the doing something that I’ve done at
the
company, which
of
another out of mission,
values.
values.
this them out and
I sent them over to the it was
sort
quiet. and the
team
is
five
of
us
as
co-founders here at one way or
another.
We’re all
trying
and attempting
at
this handstand application.
And
then
I was
In August.
Denver
Around a campfire and
around that campfire we’re
employees
And me as
and
as a
owner
is
not
quite
the their
Yeah.
One of them
One of them
mentioned their company’s
values
and everybody
with
how silly
it
is
that
have
values
And
And
everybody said, it’s nice to work with the people at
the company,
didn’t
didn’t
like resonate with
that. Yeah.
Flexing
is a
is a mission list.
Visionless and valueless company.
and
love
I love
we
as really build an
application and it
and
and
we’ll do more as we find more success and more people believe that it works because it to
us
people that do this
for the joy of it,
It
is
so.
so,
And I’m
getting
And then getting fit and being
healthy
and enjoyable
just in the fact of itself,
it doesn’t
matter where it goes.
Really
Just
who
act
of the fitness
fun
and
enjoy.
on
the
the point his to a
lot more than
handstands.
I see
Ballet dancers
go through so much
to
get
point, his toes
planet.
The
only reason
to
just
just
for,
pleasing an
pleasing an audience or
yourself
or someone
in
the
broader
world.
But it’s
but it’s
not really about where it’s going
It’s
about where it is today.
And I think that’s in
fluxing.
We grew out a
common
a really cool spot.
we’ve
Trip for the party
booked and
that’s in a few days. and
and
listening in Syracuse is welcome.
to four
30 at common space
downtown.
We’ve
got
We’ve
got a
the
three of
three of us to Las Vegas planned out and ready for
the
next
month.
The three
of
The
three
of us have booked
it so that
we’ll
We’ve
intended to
spend the
whole learning
with handstand people.
is this
app.
for them?
Did the
best
We think
that
you think
that the whole world of
people learning might
serious
is a step market.
research,
altogether
of people avoid
avoid
You know, a lot
of
a
people
a
see what they
put
out a
survey to
you do a PR
information before you, you do
a PR.
hang out
with
best of
out
with the
the
best and see what they
see what they
of our pro
of our it’s
often
People need to do
need more
In
Well,
I actually
would say that that was more influenced
the approach
by
fitness than by
done by
software.
Sure.
fitness,
fitness, and
doing all of
what
we
doing of
specific
adaptation impose
the set of model
Okay.
What
What
a, that
move, that B boy
junior
did, which took
so much
strength.
Looked
Look.
pushups
is with no
feet. The
man is basically floating on his
in a way that
the length of
time that he
the
it, the
amount of
like
pushups
you could
do
in this
like
seem super.
Okay,
How you
How you
to do bench press, you got
there is not by doing an overhead press on a bar,
what you
what
you
do
body will specifically
adapt
trying
do that
move.
There’s progressions to
there.
It’s not an
easy thing to train
and
what
makes him who he is
and why
he’s
legendary
adapt to the
my own
coach.
But
if we go to Las Vegas and we put
this in
the hands
of
that are really using.
using
it,
We’re
going
to
adapt to the side for
of those
people.
talking about we
really do
about
on the
one side,
we
want people that have almost never done a
hand
before to
try
it
out and upload a
But on the other
on the other
this
people that know what they’re
about,
really
the ones
something or
is
something
is
you know you know what I mean?
I don’t, I
I don’t, I don’t want to use that.
a
M metaphors here.
I
just
want it to be
cool
for
them and to be thought of
like,
this is for
them. I want the people that
are really in the
and we’re
and we’re doing
people that their
want it
to be a fit for the community,
community
it’s like
that. Yeah. And
Yeah.
And
I think that if
fit
the
the people that really know their business, other
people
Sure. Absolutely.
in
Absolutely. I
think that’s a really, really
really strategy.
Think you’re probably going
to have
a
these
Vegas, too, with
too,
with these,
with these folks.
So that’s that’s pretty
that’s pretty
Us
you know, you little bit can you can
go to the
go to the
upload a video
upload
a video
quick
Like that. What’s what’s the longterm
something that
should
people
They’re going to subscribe to
they are
They’re going to
this service?
The one-time use
how’s it work?
how’s it
work?
No one who has
one who has ever learned to hands-down has gotten on the
first
drive.
the product
itself
is intentionally
email to
now. And
your And
we
mean
that by
There’s no
no
subscription.
there’s no
signup. It’s just your
email in order to get a notification
that
your video
get a
notification that and the
video
And that’s
about
that’s about
now
now on the other end of it. If you’re
a
coach.
This is
you get a
productivity booster
Okay.
Okay. When
you’re coaching And you’re doing a handstand got in the room
and they
maybe they’re each paying $20 hour and to
sense to
it
makes sense to do a class it makes sense to do a per hour.
And if you’re having
10
people
and you’ve
downtime A lot
in
there, maybe they’re each paying
a thing is
So it makes
sense
do a it’s
class.
makes
sense to do a private.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of it is
downtime. A lot of it
rest between
sets
restricting of thing
is something whereas
it goes.
rest
and conversational
and there’s
enjoyable
Parts of it
restricting
some of
the
Rest away
from the coach’s
experience
and
giving them
just the.
and it service as
a coach,
this is a real
productivity
booster,
and I believe it’s for them. other
is lot to do things like
Subscribe
to
this and
have
it be
an
additional
it’s
service that
you offer as
a coach.
They’re really
the
folks that
we think are really.
Set
into
a business.
there’s
model it’s it’s
the
really the
your customer
year.
Customer, I guess he would
but your customer
Is
customer is really
themselves. the it
Are intending
athletes
the E-bay makes money on both ends, of a marketplace with sellers and with buyers,
but we’re not sure exactly
where our
athletes
are intending to
spend in the
whole broader world.
it’s just something
that we
would
like
get
get some help
of
and I you are
that’s a major
thing
that
we
have
not
Well,
that’s,
you know, it’s interesting,
model ahead
revenue model ahead
ahead
think
the product
think you
are going
the way you’re
supposed
to
supposed
to
product
Put
how received and,
how it’s received and, and, think that’s
So
it’s, it’s to see I’m very
excited.
excited.
See
see where you take it because,
where you take
it
because
Team of brilliant people
team
brilliant people
people
doing some
really cool things
have things here. And I,
have a
hard
time not seeing
seeing
this
growing.
I don’t know
world
on
I can tell you you’ve got something on your hands
cool.
It’s pretty cool.
The
here It’s pretty
team part
is.
meaningful.
world
of
The last two
years
is men
a
of and virtual
communication. Sure.
Team
in the five of us that are getting
it started.
And two more that are also now joining
in and
part-time
ways
are
The
All of the
happening
here
Syracuse.
That’s awesome.
a
very meaningful
part
somebody for
a listener
to
I understand
it’s possible
to do these
types of
Our company
company is a Delaware C Corp that raises
money
the
the
means
that
most
Silicon valley companies,
would.
I’m
this
mark
Zuckerberg.
And I’m
very happy
that
in
Syracuse, around
around people that
I
know
that
Have
this
similar sense of wanting to participate
economy.
broader
And
so
Sure.
I see
some of what happened of we’ll from ization
work
ization of
the
sterilizing,
a little certain
parts of
the
the work,
And
certain parts And we’re
going to
continue
Company and
we’ll hire
from wherever we can find
the
best
people.
Brooklyn
very
up to in Syracuse and growing here
in
Sure.
Sure.
Syracuse of
us
are,
locals
here now.
here
now.
And
Is
down in
Brooklyn.
he’s coming
up
coming up
to be
in business in the
Simon for most variety of these
coming
to
be in a
this.
for this. behind it
and we’re
promotion of Syracuse is very much what
This is
about, and it’s a
people-based business
in the
sense of
Build a
build
a
product and
we’re
all behind them. We’re
the
gonna stay
it. But
Occasionally
we want
people to
know
you know,
That’s
you know,
you know, nice to
have the product at all, and it’s
sterile that
clean
and
fun,
but
there’s people
building
Here’s where it
here’s where it came
Right.
but that’s
wonderful.
That’s
That’s great.
how
many
the
of the team are actually on the
actually software
development
I’ll just
here for a moment.
nerdy groups here for a moment.
to Tom monks is based out of lines falls
north
of
the city,
working
on
our API
developer
or this
describe
basically
applications
Tom doing
to be saved anywhere
and angel
world or communicated to
different
applications,
Tom is
doing.
that.
then,
then And
Santiago is our
design technologist.
That
means
angel are pressing a button
or
you
like the, way
this
thing
or
when it goes
from
a
sense
of
loading
to being
finished,
Angel did that. Gotcha.
got you.
doing all of the, the visual
and the
interaction piece,
I’m
and
I’m
doing
some
of the stuff
in between what
Tom does and what angel
does to finesse and
otherwise.
maybe
I’ve
sort of
let me sort
of
round
out some hard
edges
in
terms
the whole
experience
from
folks folks, you’ve worked
Did they come together
around flexing?
of
flexing
flexing
some
and So course has worked with some
of the technical skills
that they had before.
How
Tom had done some
work with
a
done
did angel
Tom
Tom being
a
contractor professionally
has availability
to
start
off
lightweight way,
That’s great Angel, a
first time doing anything
in the
Oh wow. And
I’ll
wow.
And
I’ll
share a very
don’t want to
don’t
want to say
he’s
sort
of a shining light for
me.
He
from
working as a
security
and if you look at
And if you look at
angel,
Ulysses
he’s, fit to be a security
He
would
secure
secure your
of ours
So this
He’s a
very strong fellow who
likes to do
more
Thai
fighting,
for
as
I understood it
from a mutual friend of ours,
he wanted to
learn
programming.
way to do is the only project that ever
he’s been on this with
me
for about
this with
the
called
training in
I
just
I just shared
with
him.
You
to learn programming a
it
security
I’ve got this
I’ve got
this little thing out
at the time was called body factory,
and it’s
become
It’s
very journey from
going
entire journey
software
engineer
has rewarding and gratifying
of
that. That’s so
cool.
It’s
It’s
very,
very,
me. every time I talked to them,
rewarding and a
to just
To just have
this
Tool
that’s so
physical
actually relate to
a
interested
and
all of
what
comes
along with the job and
the dignity of.
work is
really valuable and
good job, brand new. It’s not even find something that was
find something that he was
An
in and develop,
mean it’s
an incredible skill.
I
skill.
I
it’s
it’s not for everybody.
is a think
it’s not for
everybody A
lot
of people
A lot of people that and they
I might
and bolts and they realize this is, this not for me. But,
this is this
is not for me. But
way that that realized that they to go the other and some passion
they have some skill
some
and
the
that,
because the things
that we
and things that we can do today available
and the platforms
we
So
us
to
is awesome. So seeing people
take advantage of
take advantage of that,
just
Again,
it’s that’s, that’s where I come from. So that’s
a
So that’s what excites
me,
it’s such a great story. That’s
awesome. Here.
The team is
the team
is of a size that I
can
and
sell a
two
do with the rest white
birds is
a successful real
In
New
New York,
you’ll sell a
property.
And figure out what he wants to do with the rest of his
if
time.
After you’ve earned his
commission and
what he
does
with his time,
art.
So
it’s about
our
seen any 3d
work out,
flexing, designed
all and
that,
and
if you
like our
brand
colors,
she’s picked
our And
shows them.
And
if
it’s
more
about
our vibe
Great
final new
final new there’s Simon?
Simon
Simon is
a
Syracuse
what he’s
done here in calisthenics
athlete and coach.
and
As
matter of
showed a
Rashad.
angel is for what he’s
done here
in
Syracuse.
Simon
to good, a man and a smarter
good
Anyone
is
just an Ever been,
it’s
just an
honor
honor him and the other three on the team
have
on
a
strong
coaches
to base The
and
dedication and ultimately
sort
of a
care
for
all
the athletes
that
using this
We
that
them be safe.
and people
Internet’s
Internet’s abroad spot
people have
all sorts of
advice
for
you
and
not
all
of it’s
good,
this
of
team here, I think one of our
number one
things is to be fairly
moderate
and what
impossible.
If you
worked really
hard for
very long
time,
in
a
methodical
way,
you can
make skills
that
to be
impossible
possible.
I love it.
I love it.
to leave
Peter give
of
we’re out of
Peter, give
the everybody the again
Th the website,
again,
and
Straightforward thing to
do
is
to
go
to
app and
thought flux and not IO.
It’s
all
there
Everything you need.
you need. that’s
that’s
you’re
if
screen, that’s what’s on the
that’s what’s on
the
screen
Like you said and it’s
to use, like
They could jump
available right
available right now.
on today and,
on today and
check it
out.
it out. So
Peter
Smith
flex.
flex
and
very excited.
lie. We
will, this cause the
is
Cause the
launch
be live
be live
in launch
in
he
mentioned earlier.
earlier. So,
those. Cause I’m sure you’ll see that
event up that day or, or even after the
it’ll it’ll
the fact, I’m sure.
It
find
there for you. Where
you. Where can they
you?
those?
If
you wanted
to attend the
event, you
wanted to
Check
out on
meetup.com.
If
you type in Flexon, you’ll see
us
on
there,
you can RSVP,
and get all
the
Awesome.
for joining
And so cool, Peter, thank you
for
time
Until
until
next
you’re
welcome.
and
welcome. And
thank you. It’s a joy to be here.
Maybe we can find another way
to
we
can
conversation.
thank You sir
are
shortage of topics in
is no
can have
and in
conversations
can have.
we can have,
so we will. No doubt do
again.
So
Thank you, sir.